Oh internets, you hysterical zeitgeist, please simmer down. Google Chrome is not the end of Firefox. Another open-source browser is not going to bring down Mozilla’s ten years of development and evolution overnight. Here’s a quick 10 reasons not to panic:

10. Chrome is going to have problems releasing on Mac and Linux. You have to imagine it broke Google’s heart not to release for Mac and Linux when they released for Windows. The only conceivable reason they didn’t release for all must be huge, ugly dev problems that will take a lot of time and work to tackle. For instance, I’m guessing they can’t do multiple process rendering to a single window on Mac yet. There’s no supported way to do this as far as I know. And that’s only the beginning of the challenges involved with multiple processes (more here).

9. Chrome wants to be like Firefox. Many of Chrome’s main features – such as its “omnibar,” private user mode with icon, one-click bookmarks, and drop-down notifications are lifted directly from Firefox’s features and planned features. In places they used Mozilla’s code directly. I think this says that Chrome would like to be more like Firefox than its statements imply.

8. Chrome’s got security issues to work out. One biggie is its vulnerability to carpet-bombing attacks. Another is malicious links through undefined handlers.

7. Navigating your tabs and windows is impossible in Chrome. In Firefox, not only can you install one of a countless number of extensions for organizing, sorting, coloring, grouping, fading, and poking your tabs , but also cool new features are being added that allow you to visually navigate your content. How do you find your tab in Chrome? You don’t… tabs are the same color, have no favicon or visual differentiation, and there’s not even a way to see the names of tabs when you have too many in a window.

6. What we’re hearing about Chrome is mostly hype. Chrome’s an interesting new project from Google, so of course the media is chroming at the mouth (pun credit) to tell you all about it, but this is how the media makes money. A plethora of coverage does not prove Chrome is the best browser, it proves it is the newest. We won’t really know what people think of Chrome until the smoke clears and people use it in their daily lives.

5. Chrome is an unfinished product that still lacks polish. While most Google products are in “beta,” this one has a ton of kinks to work out. Google’s documented some of the bugs here, and new ones are being reported here. Sure, Firefox has plenty of issues itself, but Mozilla’s been documenting and fixing them for a decade. Chrome isn’t even fully compliant with CSS yet. For more on why Chrome lacks polish, see Peter Svensson’s article

4. Mozilla has a dedicated fan base. I’d argue more dedicated than any other browser’s users. Have you ever met a passionate user of Internet Explorer? Chrome has plenty of people excited, but it’s unlikely to gain the same kind of loyalty that Firefox enjoys from its users worldwide.

3. Competition will only make Firefox better. Competing with Internet Explorer can at times be a bit too easy, because the product is so bad and so different from Firefox. But Chrome offers new challenges in the areas Firefox cares about, such as open standards and open source. Finally, a worthy competitor for Mozilla. I also predict that Mozilla will be more willing to make substantial improvements faster now that Chrome’s in play. And, unlike Google, Firefox is Mozilla’s flagship project and has the undivided attention of many more developers. Mozilla’s focus is fixed on the browser, but Google’s main attention is on search revenue.

2. Chrome can’t match Mozilla’s extensions, tools, and plug-ins. Mozilla has an ever-growing community of developers who build excellent tools for customizing your web experience. For nearly anything you want to change about your experience in Firefox, an add-on is available for free. If it’s not there, you can write and distribute your own add-on. Many of these add-ons have their own communities and companies – they’re established and depend on Firefox to reach their users. Chrome is starting out with nothing comparable in place and thus a user experience that isn’t customizable.

1. You can’t beat Mozilla’s community. What makes Firefox awesome is its volunteer army – the thousands of developers and supporters throughout the world that contribute to Firefox’s evolution. Forget even the Mozilla employees – the community is the heart and soul of the project. This is something Google can’t develop easily, even with all their employees and resources.

So what we’re looking at is not the end of Firefox, but another exciting step towards open innovation on the web. For a more on Mozilla’s exciting new challenges, see Mitchell Baker’s and John Lilly’s comments.

28 Responses to “10 Reasons Firefox won’t be worried about Chrome”

  1. David Naylor Says:

    “Have you ever met a passionate user of Internet Explorer?”

    Actually, yes. It was kindof sad.

    “7. Navigating your tabs and windows is impossible in Chrome.”

    Well, not very long ago in the recent UI discussions, UI guru Raskin concluded that Firefox 1 had the best tab handling so far. I agree.

  2. Havvy Says:

    “Well, not very long ago in the recent UI discussions, UI guru Raskin concluded that Firefox 1 had the best tab handling so far. I agree.”

    Fx3 blows Fx1 out of the park…though the Control Tab feature of Fx3.1 will make it not so much.


  3. “In places they used Mozilla’s code directly”

    That sounds a bit misleading to me (in the context it’s in). I’ve read they’re using a few bits and pieces in low-level areas, but not in a way that makes me think they’re substantively ripping off stuff from Firefox.


  4. I think Google Chrome sticks out from the rest is it’s smooth and clean interface, though besides that, it’s not too much different than the rest. Firefox still has the traditional web browser feel, and I think they should start taking steps to push forward. And also, it’s been out for 2 days, so I don’t expect it to have a large community or fan base just yet.
    Personally, I’d wait a month or so and then write a review, things could change pretty fast.
    Firefox > Chrome

  5. Uli W. Says:

    > 10 Reasons Firefox won’t be worried about Chrome

    Oooops! A so-called Freudian slip! The whole Mozilla-planet is worried about Google Chrome. For us germans: “Es ist Panik auf der Titanic”

  6. Brian King Says:

    Another feature that Chrome “borrowed” from Firefox is the ‘Create Application shortcuts’ to launch pages/apps in separate windows. This is Prism of course, something I use everyday and would love to see rolled into Firefox by default.

    I don’t think the real question is whether Firefox should be worried or not. Chrome will get better. Firefox will get better. Possibly other browsers as well. But there is room for more than one browser.

  7. Carlo Says:

    Great post! I fully agree. Unless I can use the great extensions like iMacros or Adblock in Chrome, there is no way I would switch. A useful extension like iMacros or Greasemonkey can save you soooo much time.

  8. an0n1 m0us Says:

    who are you Jenny? Why are you posts all of a sudden appearing on Planet Mozilla?

  9. JamesR Says:

    Cheers for the Credit, my hits have been uncharacteristically healthy the last few days ;)

    I’m just sitting down to trying the browser now and I quite like how clean it is – Desperately needs plug in love though.

  10. jboriss Says:

    David Naylor –

    Firefox definitely started the tab game in a big way. But Firefox 1 was a long time ago, and I think we can do better. Arguably tab handling, rather than tab navigation and display, is better in Chrome. The ability to detach tabs, for instance, is sorely lacking in Firefox – it’s a problem Mozilla’s looking to solve.

    Justin Dolske –

    Good point, the code is low-level. The features themselves are much more telling.

    Corey Farwell –

    I agree, and in part I posted to say just that. Though I wouldn’t place too much stock in “traditional” web browser feel. Things are changing as fast as Google claims they are.

    Uli W. –

    Really? Most of the posts I’ve seen on Planet are about how Mozilla is confident and excited for the new challenge. Also, Madhava had poignant criticism of Chrome’s design: http://madhava.com/egotism/ .

    Brian King –

    Good point. And, like Chrome has done, I hope that Prism will enjoy closer integration with Firefox. And yes, there is room for many browsers. The internet is a big place – too big for Internet Explorer to continue to dominate.

    Carlo –

    There will be Chrome add-ons eventually, but yeah… no one’s taking away my Stumbleupon button.

    an0n1 m0us -

    My posts appear on Planet because I’m a Mozilla employee.

    JamesR –

    Yes, Chrome is superclean. Their premise that content is more important than (somewhat ironically) chrome is one I see potential in. But the lack some needed features. The ongoing challenge will be how to present content well and perhaps minimalistically without sacrificing needed features.

  11. Dextro Says:

    Some of the UI bits are taken from Firefox directly like the start next to the url to mark a bookmark (it’s the exact same dialog).


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  13. aaaaaaaaa Says:

    “How do you find your tab in Chrome? You don’t… tabs are the same color, have no favicon or visual differentiation”

    not true… they do have favicons.

  14. jboriss Says:

    aaaaaaa -

    I should have specified – I mean when there are enough tabs, they are shrunken down and have no favicons or visual differentiation. If there are only a few open, a favicon and title is displayed.

  15. alec Says:

    Surely as chrome is open source too there’s not really a massive concern as far as competition goes.

    They’re more like team mates than individuals. Of course they will compete for $$$ and profile but their goals are essentially the same. (google monopolistic concerns aside).

    The successful parts of one will be recreated in the other as the code runs wild and free like some kind of mighty internet stag.

    Am i wrong?


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  17. jboriss Says:

    alec –

    Well certainly Mozilla isn’t competing with Google for money, but Firefox does need market share to continue. Right now Firefox has about 20% market share, and they’d love for that to be higher. If Firefox’s market share were to, say, drop to 1% (this would be incredibly unlikely), then they would have a great deal of trouble continuing to exist. What Mozilla and Google would both love is to cut into Internet Explorer’s 75% market share. Once you start to cut that up, there’s room for many players.

  18. Nick Says:

    I’m so tired of the ”traditional browser” line. As someone who uses the suite (a.k.a seamonkey), the red-headed step-child of the Mozilla Foundation, I’m quite happy with traditional browser. Chrome is crap, just like that horrid thing from the w3c called Amaya. It may get better, but the point is that the more extensions you put on the more it will get bogged down. When chrome has a decent feature base, it will be just as slow as firefox. This is all window dressing and vaporware. It’s kind of like the idiots over at MDC switching from mediawiki to some no-name brand wiki, only because it was more buzzword compliant. Who cares? Stick with what works and innovate on more important things.

    BTW, Apple’s WebKit is mostly KDE’s libraries, so basically chrome is yet another QT browser. That QT is not so hot on Cocoa? No surprise there!

  19. Asa Dotzler Says:

    minor correction: you’re on Planet because you’re a Mozilla contributor. Employment status plays no role in determining inclusion on Planet. That being said, it’s probably impossible to be a Mozilla employee and not also a Mozilla contributor, (/me tries to think of a case…)

    - A

  20. albert Says:

    Thanks for pointing things out. However your review is overly biased. Give it time. Competition is good. Firefox ain’t going to go anywhere anytime soon. But you underestimate Google’s position and it’s ability to market the product to “regular!” users who aren’t techies or developers or computer geeks. Who don’t know the difference of IE/Firefox. And that base of people is what truly matters. Because in the en they are this vast majority who actually use the software. And here google can do a lot. More people use Google tools than firefox. Don’t forget to that into account.


  21. “10. Chrome is going to have problems releasing on Mac and Linux.”
    Particularly because they ship 25 random libraries with it, making it more-or-less un-package-able and unmaintainable.[0]

    [0] http://blog.binaryhelix.net/2008/09/google-chrome-houston-we-have-problem.html


  22. thanks .
    the best article after chrome publishing about dear firefox

  23. dukebody Says:

    Instead of attacking Chrome’s weak points and being so defensive you should try to learn from the good innovative things Chrome has…

    Ok, Mozilla has more extensions, a warmer community, etc. but Chrome already implements features currently only planned in Firefox (reason #9). Btw, how many Firefox users (percent) use extensions?

    Don’t worry, time will put everything in it’s place. ;-)

  24. jboriss Says:

    albert & dukebody -

    While I’m admittedly biased, I don’t mean to imply that Chrome is a bad product. It has plenty going for it, and as Google bears down and works out the kinks it will improve more. Some of the steps they’ve taken are brilliant, and many are steps Mozilla’s thought about taken in the future. Perhaps I should do a followup post about that’s great about Chrome, and what Firefox can learn from it.

  25. Oluniyi Ajao Says:

    Thanks for the sound analysis. The octopus called Google wants to dabble their fingers in everything conceivable but for me, Firefox rocks any day, any time.

  26. God Says:

    YEAH. YOU’RE PROBABLY RIGHT. GOOGLE WILL LOSE LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO! THOSE LOSERS

  27. skrill Says:

    In reason #7 You wrote that tabs are the same color, have no favicon or visual differentiation, and there’s not even a way to see the names of tabs when you have too many in a window.

    Well I’ve been giving Chrome a real good test run and so far I can see Favicons and when you hover a tab a tip pops up with the tabs title. And as far I’m concerned the newbie users that don’t understand how tabs work in a browser oh well. When you install Firefox it doesn’t place any toolbar buttons for opening new tabs and the only access to tabs is from the file or right click menus. I’ve worked on countless customers systems and 80% of them didn’t even know what tab browsing was and they were blown away by themes.

    This is the norm: Hold on you mean to tell me I don’t have to bookmark the previous site to leave and view another. And I can trick out firefox with my fave football team theme.

    With some people it just doesn’t click. You know I love using firefox my only complaint is the occasional loss of my bookmarks during an upgrade.

    As for Chrome so far I like it’s ability to:

    1) Crash only tab in question not entire browser.
    2) The tab browsing is on auto pilot.
    3) Incognito Browsing (luv that 007 stuff)
    4) Single click bookmarking (with no toolbar customize)
    5) Sand boxing the tabs (Holding any bad stuff at bay)
    6) Recycling of memory when tabs are shut down

    Google did go all out but I do agree Chrome will need quite a bit of work to make it a tight browser. I will continue to use Firefox religiously because as Boriss
    said it boasts a huge selection of constantly updated extensions “add ons” and I for one use several just for web design, some for SEO and some for personal browsing.

    Right now I’m using Chrome for my play browser and Firefox for work. Works out slick since Firefox tends to slow down a bit with add ons installed.

    One more thing about Chrome I believe Google did something great because they developed a new browser based on an operating system and made it open source to the world. So you are correct in saying it will pump up the browser competition. They won’t have to spend a gazillion hours developing the core design themselves just snag what Google already created and build on it.

    You can read a cool comic strip Google put together here: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html#size=small&page=0

    Later


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